Smartness is everything
Why Recite Quran Daily
A reminder….. Why do we read Quran, even if we can’t understand a single Arabic word ???
This is a beautiful story. Though we must all try our best to understand and follow the QURAN as much as possible and it is not difficult as we have many good tafseers around Alhamdulillah. Feel that many people embrace ISLAM after knowing Quran with open-heart. Lets do so !
An old American Muslim lived on a farm in the mountains of eastern Kentucky with his young grandson. Each morning Grandpa was up early sitting at the kitchen table reading his Qur’an. His grandson wanted to be just like him and tried to imitate him in every way he could.
One day the grandson asked, ‘Grandpa! I try to read the Qur’an just like you but I don’t understand it, and what I do understand I forget as soon as I close the book. What good does reading the Qur’an do?’ The Grandfather quietly turned from putting coal in the stove and replied, ‘Take this coal basket down to the river and bring me back a basket of water.’
The boy did as he was told, but all the water leaked out before he got back to the house. The grandfather laughed and said, ‘You’ll have to move a little faster next time,’ and sent him back to the river with the basket to try again. This time the boy ran faster, but again the basket was empty before he returned home. Out of breath, he told his grandfather that it was impossible to carry water in a basket, and he went to get a bucket instead.
The old man said, ‘I don’t want a bucket of water; I want a basket of water. You’re just not trying hard enough,’ and he went out the door to watch the boy try again.
At this point, the boy knew it was impossible, but he wanted to show his grandfather that even if he ran as fast as he could, the water would leak out before he got back to the house. The boy again dipped the basket into river and ran hard, but when he reached his grandfather the basket was again empty. Out of breath, he said, ‘See Grandpa, it’s useless!’
‘So you think it is useless?’ The old man said, ‘Look at the basket.’ The boy looked at the basket and for the first time realized that the basket was different. It had been transformed from a dirty old coal basket and was now clean, inside and out. ‘Son, that’s what happens when you read the Qur’an. You might not understand or remember everything, but when you read it, you will be changed, inside and out. That is the work of Allah in our lives.’
If you feel this email is worth reading, please forward to your contacts/friends.
Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) says:
‘The one who guides to good will be rewarded equally’.
Please do read this related topic “Quran is the best way to understand Islam“
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but some of us are just reading the comments of others not understanding those. its just like we are trying to fill the glass but its placed with open end downward so all the liquid keeps floating around.
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about 3 years ago
ok…when I said about split personality it means the confusion Blue Moon has in her mind like she keeps coming back to this forum to post her confusions. Although, she sounds very stubborn as she did not respond to our detailed replies but I believe that if she keeps coming back here it means she still has to decide what is right and what is wrong. Our responsibility is to tell her the truth and leave the rest on Allah.
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2. I believe God exists but which God? Here we have to discuss all the religions that believe in God and see which religion is true.
3. I believe Islam is a true religion but it feels like a prison to me? Here we’d would start discussing all the confusions/thoughts you have about wrong images of Islam.
4. I know what I have to do, I don’t need to follow any religion and I am just having fun on this forum? We will not answer to the questions that have already been answered but waiting on your reply but we’ll still reply to your other false beliefs so that other people don’t go astray and will inshallah pray for you that May Allah guide you and you come back on the right path.
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about 3 years ago
and let us first talk about the subject of Quran. Which is offcourse not it’s medical benefits or Scientific forecasts. which alhumdolilah whereva mentioned in Quran, are proved to be true. Let us first talk about its main message which is:
preparing you for the life after death, telling you that you have just One God, this life is a test and ur death will make you face a day called “day of judgment”, where the criteria of success is ‘how much u have purified urself’…and the people who will succeed in this test will enter heaven and the ones who will fail will enter hell.
Let us first talk about that, all the other benefits we get from Quran are one ov its miracle and are secondary.
i hope that sister Blue Moon will start discussing by picking the stick from the right end.
Regards
about 3 years ago
Dear All !
Well sister Blue Moon ! again i believe that you are not showing the kind of attitude which you should show if you are really on a quest to seek truth. Let us talk on fundamentals. I have asked you not once, but several times that please put ur misconceptions forward and inshAllah we will clear all of them. We do not have a blind belief, alhumdolilah we are learned Muslims.
We will not, and are not, proving Islam and our beliefs by saying that such and such are converting. as i said earlier it does not make no difference. The truth is truth no matter every body goes against it. But the problem here is that you dont have listen, you dont want to admit, you dont want truth, you want yourself to be free (which you think is Freedom). And you dont want to compromise on that.
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“It seems that the heaven has been tailor made for our chauvinist male couterparts. Beautifull houris and YOUNG BOYS to attend to any of their desires,”…..
again im really sorry to say, that you have been in wrong hands, and you have shown a very illiterate behavior of discussing. where does YOUNG BOYS is written in Quran. and remaining the Jannat is not at all for “Chauvinist male”…it is for both genders and both will have equal rights there…it has been made pretty clear with statement in quran that in heavens one will have any thing he/she desires…no inequality. So you would like to have some thing you will get it, same goes for men. you havent understand the language and behavior of the Quranic language and Quran. I can go on n on to prove your allegations on “Muslim Heaven” wrong. but for that we need to first convince you that YES there will be another life. and thats not only logical but without that there is no purpose of this life and world.Sister Blue Moon ! you did not answer me, why are you respecting your parents? why do you not scold them in response when they scold you? why are you abiding by the law of your country? Whyyyy? dont you feel restricted?why dont you leave your country, your family? your company in which you work???? whyyyyyyy? im hapy that you are so-called “free”, but then get totally free, free frm any binding, any restriction, any code of conduct, any legislation, who has a right to make some one prisoner????isnt it wat u believe?? strange !
why you punish a theif???let him do that??what about people who commit rape, theft, murder, and all and still they are successful in preveting themselves frm the Law???who would give justice to the victims?????think on these things? dont you think that anther life, where the victims will be given justice in necessary.
Sister Sana ! This is another try to make Blue Moon listen and come to truth Or atleast to clear some really really big misunderstandings.
Sister Blue Moon ! Think and atleast make your behavior one of educated behavior, make yourself some one who wants the truth, not his/her own desires,
i hope i have conveyed ma message with lot decency and in a lineant way. I apologize for any harsh wording, if i have used.
Regards
about 3 years ago
No Ijaz! We don’t need to reply any Free Human Being. We are here to discuss truth and to strengthen our faith, not to analyse the personalities of others. Thank you Blue Moon for commenting and now onward we do not want to hear anything from you Miss Free Human Being who does not care any Hell or Heaven.
Ijaz your comments and research should be for those people who really are looking for some religious knowledge. not for those who just make fun of your religion by saying that she is free of the prison of Islam and who is calling our religion a bullshit. So dont need to reply anymore.
about 3 years ago
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Here is the link to watch what scientists say and their names. I will give you another link where they are actually speaking themselves. I will also reply to your other questions very soon inshallah.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUA_G5-2KVI&feature=related
regards.
about 3 years ago
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Sister Sana, I agree that you told me ‘that some of the french hospitals are using ablution as a method of treatment for Psycho patients plus I mentioned as well that some great minds of science embraced Islam Masha Allah’.
I will be waiting for you to post the names of those hospitals that are using ablution as a method of treatment plus the names of ‘some great men of science who have embraced Islam’. It is easy to ‘mention and tell’ , I am afraid I still need facts!
Sister Sana, I am really following the truth by myself!. If I relied upon others I would certainly have joined another religion/sect by now! Faith needs no support. Faith is intrisic! You do not have to prove your faith in islam by saying that such and such converted! Well, I understand it is a great comfort when you come to know that a kaffir has converted to islam.
But what about the reverse? I am a nothing, just an ordinary woman who has discarded this filthy masochist creed. I may not be as brave as Wafa Sultan (watch her on youtube if you dare) who has openly criticised Islam and who is now under a Fatwa, but at least now I am a free human being – no need to bother about hell or heaven.
By the way, have you ever thought of Jannat? It seems that the heaven has been tailor made for our chauvinist male couterparts. Beautifull houris and YOUNG BOYS to attend to any of their desires, unlimitted access to RIVERS OF WINE ( but alas! no champain cause it was invented after the quran was ‘revealed’) precious gem stones, which I wonder of their utility in Jannat!! But what do we women have to gain in Jannat?
Sister Sana, you don’t know me! Yet you have analysed me based on these few words that I have written. My arguments are not sick but rational. As a free human being I think I have the right to question the fundamentals.
about 3 years ago
Dear Blue Moon
I feel sorry for you and your behavior. As brother Ijaz mentioned that we should not comment, as ur behavior is not one of finding the truth but to neglect it with your “closed” eyes.
So i would not comment on any thing you answered, unless you show a positive behavior. Im sure you are not living with your family and you are not following the rules and laws of the country in which you are living. arent they a creed and restriction on you, why dont you get yourself out of em as well? im sure you must be already doiung that, and if you are not, then try to give anther thought on calin Islam a prison.
We can clear each and every misconception you have if you show a positive attitude. the behavior of your parents, current muslims or muslim Scholars should not be taken as islam. Whenever we try to judge some thing we do not see at the surface rather we go in deep and see its roots. I think you have a serious mistake in ur approach. No matter if the whole world goes against the truth, the truth is still a truth. Callin Jews pigs and monkeys, please come with a reference and i will make u understand that…dont only watch baseless Movies like ‘Fitna’ in which they show a small girl saying that Jews are Pigs, rather show a positive Knowledgable approach and im sure you will get the truth or atleast the bitterness in you towards Islam will be decreased. But with ur current behavior and approach…Im Sorry but you are not doing any good to urself
i Pray that may God show us the right path. and open our hearts to accpet the truth. Amen
Regards
about 3 years ago
I think we should not even reply to Blue Moon’s comments because she never gave answers on our questions. If she would have read all the replies given by us, she’d never come back with same silly questions again.
One more thing for Blue Moon, if your parents did not teach you the true meanings of Islam then it does not mean that Islam or Quran has any flaws. You should rather blame your parents for their behavior towards you. There are millions of muslims in this world who drink alcohol, involved in crimes and adultery but they don’t start blaming Islam for their bad deeds.
Let me tell you what your problem is, you want to seek freedom and want to follow your desires but at the sametime your instinct and brain condemns your thoughts so you are confused now. That’s why you keep coming back to this forum and then go back to islam watch type websites.
Your case is kind of a split personality where first personality is trying to seek freedom out of any restrictions and the second personality condemns first one. Unfortunately, you first personality is dominant and it always tries to find excuses to reject second personality. These excuses sometimes come in the form of contradictions in Quran etc and sometimes the way your parents did your brought up.
I’d disagree with Sana that you are mentally healthy. I’d strongly recommend you to see a psychiatrist to be able to evaluate you MPD disorder.
regards.
about 3 years ago
Blue Moon!
One more thing to mention here is……..Please dont try to add sick arguments to get attention or fame. You mentioned in your previous post very false point that is Jews are considered apes and pigs etc and still it is chaotic comment from you. You never clarify your points and still you want us to clarify your mind. Please use the authentic arguments with their references as well. Dont try to use this type of false points that would be just a wastage of time. We are here to discuss every aspect of religion but in a healthy way, so please next time avoid to add such comments that shows a sick mentality. Hope you got my point.
about 3 years ago
Blue Moon,
Perhaps you are not willing to seek the truth. I told you that some of the french hospitals are using ablution as a method of treatment for Psycho patients plus I mentioned as well that some great minds of science embraced Islam Masha Allah.
I know the name of hospital and the name of doctors who are not muslims but they are using “EXACTLY AND SURELY ABLUTION” for the treatment of their Psycho patients. I know the great minds of science as well who embraced islam even that I have their references and the contact details as well. I know their degerees and official details too. But the question is ……….why dont you try to follow the truth by yourself?
do you think if some great people embraced islam, you should blindly follow them and embrace islam too? if this is the situation then WHERE YOUR OWN FAITH DOES EXIST???
According to my analysis your own faith has no existence and you are one of those people who are blindly following a line in the fellowship of others.
If you dont believe in Allah, then according to anyother religion you might have some belief in God……..not Allah but God…….the creator.
So Creator has given you mind, consciousness and has assign you a title i.e. Suprem Being. Then why dont you contemplate everything by yourself? Why you want your faith to be pampered by other HUMAN BEINGS? Please dont be so sick and use your own mind to contemplate.
Dont ask me what exists. But try yourself. You have a mind and you should use it spend it as well. There is no difference in my mind and in your mind. If I can use my mind for seeking truth then why can’t you? You are not mentally ill and not having any serious disease like Schizophrenia or Psychotic ailments etc. Then why are you afraid for using your mind to seek the truth.
Do contemplate by yourself. Dont rely on others not even upon me. Because any human being can mislead you but your mind can never misguide you but the condition is……..”only if you have a Healthy mind”.
about 3 years ago
reference to your question
“You also said that great scientists converted to Islam. Could you just give me the some names?. ”
has been provided on the forum
http://mesmarty.com/bbpress/topic/why-recite-quran-daily
this post will be removed or blocked for further communications here … so kindly as requested earlier continue your discussion on the forum..
nice and healthy conversation should continue but not with the aim of showing some one down. Atleast with the purpose of replying we will do some research and will learn something new. so focus should be on learning …
about 3 years ago
Dear Sana Khan,
I am glad that you are shocked to know about my ‘anti islamic’ views. We have been so dormant that only shocks can wake-up us now. Anybody seeking the truth should do it with eyes wide open and not like a horse galloping wearing blinds! I can understand our muslim mind and the how of this insane behavior. I have gone through all this and i know what i am talking about.
The conditioning, the brain storming, the daily maktab imposed by my parents. As a child i had no options than to beleive that what was being taught to me was the only truth. Problems arised when i started questioning these ‘truths ‘ . The only answers i got was slaps and ‘do not ask such questions or you will end up in hell’. Now! Now! Even asking some innocent questions would find me end up in hell! How stupid!
You aked me why i considered Islam to be a prison. I think that it would be very difficult for someone born and raised-up in a prison to ever conceive that there are other spaces and vastnesses beyond its bars. Just like a frog born in a pond, lives in the pond and dies in the same pond, it would be very difficult for it to imagine that oceans exist! And also it will be difficult for you to ever imagine that i have not embrassed any other religion after leaving this creed called islam. I am a totally free human being now. One needs to be very courageous and strong to undo these conditionings and who can dare to look back and see things with new born eyes. To hell with hell and the masochist islamic heaven!!!
Please do read the Hadiths (which i doubt you have!) where you will find things that will shock you even more! Like drinking camel piss, eating eight dates per day to fight against any illness, the sun setting in a pond of murky waters (that’s in the quran anyway (1887) and where you will find out that Allah transformed some Jews into PIGS!!
You said that ‘It is said by the world. You see the modern research is proving its medical benefits. Even in French Mental Hospitals, Ablution i.e. Wuzu is being used for the treatment of neurotic patients. If Wuzu is so beneficial then just imagine that how many benefits you get from reciting this Holy Book’.
Well, this is easyly said! What do you mean by the ‘world’. Who is the world? What proof are u taking about? What French Mental hospitals? That is quite vague, isn’t it? Could you please give me some precise addresses and contact names so i can verify this. You also said that great scientists converted to Islam. Could you just give me the some names?. As far as i know great men of science like, Copernicus, Sir Issac Newton, Galileo Galilei, Leonardo da Vinci, Plank, Einstein, Stephen Hawkings (who is still alive and you can check with him) never converted to Islam! And just don’t give me this crap that Buzz Aldrin converted to Islam after hearing Azaan on the moon. I watched him on Youtube some times ago, and he dennied having any relationship with Islam whatsoever. The same with Commander Cousteau, whom many muslims believed that he converted to Islam. I watched his funerals on TV and I can assure you that this was done according to Christians rituals.
By the way, one muslim brother insists that all knowledge (past and future!) has already been written in the ‘holy book’. Could you just give me a few examples – just a few ones – about the forthcoming discoveries/inventions that we should expect in the near future.
May Allah guides you in your answers.
Blue Moon.
Poor soul of mine now definitely doomed to go to Hell!
about 3 years ago
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about 3 years ago
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Regards,
about 3 years ago
Brilliant idea Brother Aamir! We are also planning to add an Islamic Forum in our site and you will get it very soon Insha Allah. There we will start the blogs related to Qura’nic topics
about 3 years ago
Well brothers and Sisters !
After the conversation with blue moon my belief that Quran should be read with understanding has firmed up. because Quran itself tell that its purpose is to read it with understanding. and only through understandably reading it, we can asnwer such allegations against Quran and Islam.
So i would like sister Sana to start a blog on the importance of reading Quran with understanding, not mere reciting. because i believe that any thing should be handled with its primary purpose in mind. If that primary purpose is unfulfilled then you will not achieve primary benefits as well, then you might have secondary benefits but it wont be a proper utilization of that. We have been only reciting it for more then 5 centuries now, and thats why we are only enjoying the secondary benefits of it. Lets start reading it with understanding and let us encourage people to read it with understanding and just understanding.
Regards
about 3 years ago
Dear Sister Sana
Thanks for your Appreciation, Surely, we are not able to justify anything , its God and his message which has all the powers. atleast i am a very infant student of Quran and islam. just as Brother Ijaz said, i went through Quran and the allegations of Blue Moon, and found out that none of them carried weight.
Anyways Sister Blue Moon is still welcome to clear any misconception she has regarding Quran and Islam.
Regards
about 3 years ago
Sister Sana,
Thanks for your appreciation but All the praises and thanks be to Allah who has given us opportunity to tell the truth to these disbelievers. I am just an IT professional not a scholar but I did a little research and was able to answer these false allegations. I guess, if we who know very little can answer them then think about the real scholars who have been proving these people wrong for 1400 yrs. My request to Blue Moon is to do research before copying and pasting anything from anti-islamic websites and if she don’t find the answer then consult some good scholar.
I have no objection if you put this on a separate post, i think it’s a great idea so that our other brothers and sisters don’t go astray with these false allegations. I’d also like to have a post for “Scientific Evidences that Isam is truth” so that we can do our best to convince agnostic people of this cnetury that Islam is indeed a true religion.
May Allah give you reward for all you efforts on this forum.
regards.
about 3 years ago
Blue Moon,
Surely if you are seeking for truth, You can never get that much authentic clarification for your allegations. Try to see the truth with your own eyes Remove the spectacles of any so called scholar Mr.Zaidan or that type of other any anti islam scholars. You see………two of the followers of truth have given you the best possible and authentic answers of your anti-islam questions. Now what you say about Islam, Qur’an, Truth?
dear fellow try to follow the truth. Allah has blessed you with awareness, conscience and the best quality to contemplate everything by yourself. Then why you are blindly following this type of fake scholars? Why don’t you use your own brain to follow the right path? Don’t believe these cook and bull stories told by them and try to get the bottom line by yourself. Once you try to seek the truth, Allah helps you in many ways and enlights you with the light of truth. Try it and you will have to faith Insha Allah.
about 3 years ago
Jazak Allah! Well done brother Ijaz. You have done a great job. Really brilliant effort. I would like to make a post of Blue Moon’s allegations and your comments and the comments by brother Aamir as the answer of these allegations. I hope you have no objection. Really a great thanks to both of you for this true effort.
Well done.
about 3 years ago
Dear All !
Frist of all i would like to say thanks and appreciate Brother ijaz for his efforts to clarify misconceptions in the mind of Sister blue Moon !
Secondly thanks to sister Sana for her appreciation as well as contribution to clarify the truth to Sister Blue Moon
I would request Sister Blue moon to judge these comments by Me, Bro ijaz and Sis Sana, and then try to do her quest for truth without any prejudice or bias. im sure God will show you the right path.
Please Open up your heart and mind for the truth.
Verily, Quran shows the straight path to the one who believe.
Regards
about 3 years ago
RESPONSE TO Blue Moon’s FALSE ALLEGATIONS:
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Brothers and Sisters,
Now is the time to expose Zaidan and all others who support Islam-watch website. I was sure that these sites are sponsored by enemies of Islam and if you go check this one you will find out that it has tons of material published against Islam based on either false or baseless arguments like the ones Blue Moon has presented us. These websites present only negative image of Islam to mislead people with weak Imaan.
After reading this if Blue Moon is really seeking the truth, she should go ahead copy all the answers (given by sister Sana, Aamir and me) and paste them on Islam-watch website and then analyze who is right and who is wrong. If she don’t do that and keep searching the contradictions only then that time is not far when Allah will set a seal on her heart and close her vision and hearing.
Blue Moon, now look it is even being proved rightnow that Allah is giving you a chance to return to His path but once the seal is set then you will never return and you will not be able to blame Allah that it was pre-decided for you to go astray. Are you getting the answer yourself now?
Think about it and read carefully below my responses:
2:23. if you have doubts about our revelations to our servant ( Mohammad) call on your martyrs (Shohadaikum). It should be call on your partners ( Shorakaikum) as no one would call on the dead people to witness anything.
No where in this verse Allah says “martyrs”. Read the Arabic text and find the meaning of “Shahid” it is a plural of this word which is used in this verse that means “witnesses’. So Allah is asking disbelievers to call their witnesses (supporters and helpers) besides Allah, if they are truthful. You have to look at the context of the verse, it does not mean martyrs here.
Allegation proved false!
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86:7 human sperms originate from between the back and the ribs, which contradicts the science of embryology which stresses that sperms originate from the testicles.
No where in this verse Allah says that “human sperms originate from back and ribs”. Read the Arabic text and verse 6 uses the word “Ma” which means water. The actual translations is as follows. “He (man) is created from a water gushing forth. Proceeding from between the back-bone and the ribs”. Now if you want to discuss whether man is created from water then that is seperate discussion but the word “human sperms” is not mentioned anywhere in this verse. Quran uses word “Nutfa” for sperms.
Allegation proved false!
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4: 78, 79. Verse 78 says that all actions good or evil come from God while the verse 79 says that good comes from God while evil comes from humans, an obvious contradiction.
There is no contradiction in this at all. Read verse 78 again, disbelievers used to blame Prophet PBUH that evil comes from him, so Allah replies to them that both come from Allah like Allah has created satan and has also given us Quran as guidance. Now verse 79 means, if you follow Quran good comes to you as Allah’s blessing but when you follow satan’s path or do against Quran then don’t blame Prophet PBUH for any evil that comes to you. It is you who is not following Allah’s path and if anything bad happens to you in a result then you are responsible for it.
Allegation proved false!
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37:139-145 Jona ( Younis) was ejected from the belly of the whale, while in 68:48-49 Jona was not ejected. Which is it ejected or not ejected?
This is nothing but confusion in your mind. The verses 37:139-145 are talking about Younis AS and a big fish swallowed him and after his repentance he was thrown on the naked shore. The verses 68:48-49, no where mentioned that he was not thrown. It says Allah forgave him so he was cast off on the naked shore. Can you explain something else out of it?
Your allegation is false!
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31:10 God created the heavens and supported them with invisible pillars.
There is a big mistake in the meaning you took. The verse actually means “He has created the heavens without any pillars”. Read the Arabic text and the word “Beghair” means “without”. What stories of planes are you telling us? Is that in bible or it’s your own story??
Allegation proved false!
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71:15-16 God created the seven stories heavens and made the moon as a source of light in these heavens.
Again you need to read the meaning of verse 16. The actual meaning is “And has made the moon a light therein, and made the sun a lamp?” Now you tell me where is the contradiction? Modern science tells us that in this universe the stars are originating energy in the form of heat and light (lamp) and only moons are reflectors of light. Science proved that planets do not reflect light as moons because of their surface composition. Hence, Quran is 100% correct about moon as light and sun as lamp.
Allegation proved false!
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18:83-86 Zu-El Qarnin found out that the sun sets in a hole of murky water. Really?
This verse doesn’t say “hole”, the meaning is “Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of black muddy water”. Now here you need to understand a basic thing that Allah is communicating with mankind, so the attribute of literature would be used. Even now a days in different countries, different people say it in different ways. Someone say I drove it until sun set, other person would say I was at ocean I saw sun setting in ocean another would say I saw it setting in desert.
The real thing is when Zul Qarnain reached to a point from there onwards there was water (river or ocean or lake) and it was the time of sun set so he saw it setting in water. What is wrong about it now? It would have been definitely wrong if this verse would specifically be talking about Sun and where it sets, but that is not the case. Here you can’t take it in absolute meaning.
Allegation proved false!
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23:12-14 in Quranic embryology…
Here again it is just a matter of sequence and you are confused in it. Even if bones and flesh develops simultaneously, can you tell me using your common sense if there is no bone then where would you put the flesh. There has to be atleast 5 or 10% of bone present for flesh to be on it and if rest of the development happens concurrently, Quran is not talking about that. Did you bother to read the whole verse?
It says: “Then We made him as a drop in a place of settlement, firmly fixed”. Modern science has proved that when conception happens the embryo is attached firmly to uterus then Quran says: “Then We made the drop into blood clot”, Modern science has proved that in second stage embryo has blood in its sacs for nourishment and it is a blood clot and then later stages are also proved 100% accurate. Now tell me how could Prophet PBUH knew all this when modern science has recently discovered it using high tech devices. Offcourse, Allah taught him in Quran and science is proving it correct after 1400 yrs which is another miracle of Quran. These are miracles of Quran for the people of this century who want to seek truth and guidance and not for agnostic people.
Allegation proved false!
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88: 20 The earth has been flattened. An obvious contradiction to simple science.
This verse is not talking about scientific explaination of whether the earth is round or flat. In fact, the word “flattened” is not correct here the actual meaning is “And at the earth, how it is spread out?” You can’t deny that earth is spread out as you can walk on it, drive and so on.
If you want to extract science out of Quran then you will be lost. Quran never claimed that it’s a scientific book but in some verses you will find some scientific topics which again are not mentioned to explain science but to mention the signs from Allah that even today when somebody match them with modern science they are 100% accurate. No Prophet except Prophet Muhammad SAW was given this miracle that even after him the truth is coming out of his book. Can you get me one such miracle from bible or Torah??
Allegation proved false!
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2:6-7 God blinded the unbelievers as he closed their hearts, their vision and their hearing. Why would the loving God, who wanted everyone to believe, do that?
I think Aamir has given good explaination on this, I’d only add that like you asked before what will happen to newborn of non-muslims, the answer was they will go to heaven. So it is clear that Allah does not close newborns heart, vision or hearing. And then refer to my comments that Allah Knows everything in advance but He gives us chance to listen and understand His message and guidance so that we don’t blame Allah on the day of judgement that we were not given a chance or everything was already decided.
Once Allah Knows that enough message and guidance has reached you so that you can’t make an excuse on the day of judgement He sets a seal on your heart, vision and hearing if He Knows that you will never return to his path. This confusion of yours is actually related to the issue which I have already addressed in comment 38. Please read it again and clear up your mind.
Allegation proved false!
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2:10 The kuffars are sick in their hearts and God increased their sickness. Is that logical that God would increase their sickness instead of healing them?
Here Allah is talking about Hypocrites and their disease of being in the state of doubt all the time. When they don’t return to Allah’s path their disease (of doubt and hypocrisy) goes worst and worst. Why it happens so, The answer is same as 2:6-7.
Allegation proved false!
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2: 264 God does not guide the Kuffars. Really? Isn’t like the physician who would not treat the sick? Who needs guidance the believer or the unbeliever?
The answer is same as 2:6-7.
Allegation proved false!
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4:88 Do you want to guide those that God had misled? Is that possible that the all loving God would mislead His own creatures?
The answer is same as 2:10.
Allegation proved false!
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6:149 If God wished He would have guided all of you. Status quo proves then that God did not wish to guide all! Obviously he did not want everyone to believe.
Here Allah is talking about guidance which is given to the people who believe. If you don’t believe in Allah then what guidance are you expecting for? The first thing is that you believe in Allah. Now, why you are a disbeliever please refer to answers for 2:6-7, 2:10 and comments 38.
Allegation proved false!
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13: 33 If God misleads his creature no one can guide them. Again is it possible that the most merciful not only misleads his creatures but He does not want anyone else to guide them.
14:4 God misleads whoever He wants and guide whoever He wants. Aren’t we here witnessing God’s racism when He is being selective in guidance?
The answer is same as 2:10
Allegation proved false!
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91:8 God inspires humans their good and evil. If God, in His unlimited capability, inspires good and evil for all beings, then we are either doomed or saved right from the beginning and we have no other alternative. Repentance means nothing when such a decision was already made.
No where Allah says that He inspires good and evil. Read the Arabic text it means Allah showed man what is wrong for him and what is right for him. I dont know why you mentioned again that “Repentance means nothing when such a “decision” was already made. ” Did you read comments 38, please read them carefully.
Allegation proved false!
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17:1 Mohammad visited Al-Masjid Al-Aqsa.
Brother Aamir has given very detailed answer on this. My response is same.
Allegation proved false!
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23:14 blessed Allah the best of all creators. How many creators do we have?
Again this is the same method of communication as Zul Qarnain’s story. Here the point is not that there are many creators, the message is that Allah is the best Creator which means you will not find any flaw in his creations. This can be a long discussion when you include disbelievers who used to say that they created things…it needs separate discussion.
Allegation proved false!
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19:25 Shake the palm tree talking to Mary.
Who said that Jesus was born in winter or December. This is what Christians say. Quran never said that. “Christ was born in a manger” who is claiming that, if you believe in what is written in Bible which had been corrupted even before Islam then I am sorry for you that your knowledge is based on corrupt and false information. If virgin Mary can give birth to a son with Allah’s Command then why can’t she shake the palm tree?
Allegation proved false!
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5: 73 He blasphemes who says that God is one of three gods.
You said no Christians claim that there are three gods. However, the basic belief in Christianity is belief in God the Father, Jesus Christ as the Son of God and the Holy Spirit. They give same place and respect to Jesus and Holy spirit as God (Allah), this is shirk (making partners with Allah) and that is what this verse is pointing towards. I don’t know which world are you living in, if there is any Christian in this world who does not believe in this trinity then please let’s us know also.
Allegation proved false!
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In the end I’d say that sister Sana wrote on this forum that Quran is a guidance for people who believe in it, not for those who disbelieve, I think this is the starting point if you are seeking guidance then believe in it first.
May Allah guide us all to the right path.
about 3 years ago
Blue Moon,
I am very much shocked to know your anti-islam views. That shows clearly that you are not seeking truth.
A great thanks and a lot of appreciation to brother Aamir and brother Ijaz for dedicating their precious time for this blog. I think if you were seeking for truth, their comments would be enough to show you light but I am very sorry to say that you are from those people who just try to find out contradictions in any religion to make the people astray from the right path. A religion that gave you honour before 1400 years ago while the whole world was treating Woman below the line of humanity, A religion that gave you the laws for perfect dealing with people around you and gave you the principals for balanced life, A religion that tells you how to be a good human being, (not only a good muslim but to be a good human being). So you are considering that religion a prison???????? really Shocking. My religion teaches me not to talk you harshly but I would like to ask you some thing that is tickling my mind after reading your comments.
On What Grounds You Are Considering Islam A Prison? If Once You Were A Muslima, Then Which religion you adopted later?
You know Alhamdulillah I am by birth muslim who born in a muslim family and living in muslim atmosphere. But I never followed anything blindly. I always analysed everything and Alhamdulillah I found every teaching of my religion logical and true. Whether its related to common dealing with the people, whether its related to law and order, justice, dealing with non-muslims or related to science.
You are considering islam a prison……….According to my perception, you could never remain very close to Islam when you were Muslima. You are one of those people who rely on the analysis of others. Who have no eyes to see the light, no ears to listen the truth, no senses to realize the facts. If your parents were muslims, you were muslim. If any so called scholar Zaidan told you contradictions, you left the religion islam and now you consider it a prison. What a funny fact you are telling. In fact you are watching Islam and Islamic teachings not by your own eyes but by the eyes of any anti-islam person. Otherwise you could never say the baseless things like……”jews are considered apes and pigs etc”. Let me tell you if you are telling something to someone, you should first confirm whether it is authentic or not. Otherwise your own authenticity turns to be suspicious. Kindly do let me know that why you are considering Islam a prison………….I want to know the reason behind this way of thought. If you do not want to post here, do let me know I would send you my email id, you can send me there but I want to know the grounds behind your this negative way of thought.
Only one person is presenting some allegations at Islam and you are following him blindly. What about so many scholars, the men of science who researched day and night and finally they concluded that “Undoubtedly Islam is nothing but a TRUTH”
I would like you to read some of the other posts of mine which I am refering here and open your mind and heart for truth.
http://www.mesmarty.com/2009/01/the-bible-led-me-to-islam/
Kindly read it to know the fact that how bible led a christian to find the truth and finally he got light of Islam.
http://www.mesmarty.com/2008/12/experience-of-nakata-khaula-a-japanese-who-embraced-islam-i/
http://www.mesmarty.com/2008/12/experience-of-nakata-khaula-a-japanese-woman-who-embraced-islam-ii/
Kindly do read them and some of my other posts related to Islam to know what you were and what you have turned to be.
May Allah keep us all on siraat-e-mustaqeem. Aameen. Looking forward for your reply that why you consider islam a prison?
Again Thanks and Heartiest Appreciation to brother Aamir and Ijaz who added so logical and authentic points here and tried their best to show the light of islam to an ignorant. Well done brother. May Allah bless you the best reward for it.
about 3 years ago
Blue Moon,
You are telling us that you are a female and not male, when it was not even asked by anyone on this forum but you wanted to clear it out because you believed it was wrong to call you “He”. The same way there were a few questions asked by different people on this forum which needs answers from you like the what was the source of “the pig and apes” story, if you are not muslim now then what religion, if at all, are you following and what are your thoughts on such a detailed reply on false allegations by brother Aamir? Do you agree on previous replies we gave on your other questions?
I don’t think you are going to reply to them but I feel my responsibility to reply to your allegations you put on Quran, yes I call it your allegations because when you agree and support with someone’s view and post it here then it becomes your allegation too. I will soon post a reply to all your false allegations from a different perspective.
The people like Zaidan are sponsored by Jews and Christians to create confusion among muslims. Do you know why? because they know that Islam is a true religion and they can’t fight it on any ground and also they don’t want to change their forefather’s religion just because of their arrgoance and ego, so they hire people like Zaidan to find contradictions within Islam to misguide people. I will soon expose this guy and prove his allegations false.
Just look at the bottom line of your comment no. 49. “The poor authors of tafseer could not come up with any credible explanations to any of the above, as they naively try in vain to unveil the above contradictions.”
If you believe that these authors went invain in their explainations then why are you relying on them. If your teacher fails to explain Newton’s law to you then does it mean that Newton’s law is wrong? What effort have you done to find the truth? Did you bother to even read these verses before copying and pasting them on this forum or did any other research?
I am very sorry to say but you are not in search of truth, in fact, you want to hear the stuff that suits your desires. That is one of the reason you are in search of what are the contradictions and not what is true evidence. You believed in 15 or 20 false allegations more than the whole Quran just because you were finding an excuse to live a life where you are not answerable to anyone.
I am again very sorry to say all this to you but you know it in your heart that it is true. I will prove all these allegations wrong and whether you agree with it or not, atleast it will stop other people on this forum to astray or become agnostic.
Wait for my response.
about 3 years ago
Dear Sister Blue Moon !
Salam
Well i think if you know the basics of English Language, which im sure you do, then you must know that it is the rule in english language that when you dont know the gender of a person whom you are talkin you use ‘He’ not ‘she’. So blame the Liberalize ‘not masochist mind’ of west which created this distinction. not muslims or us. and if you have an open eye, you shall see that this blog has been created by a Girl, sister Sana. I am 100% sure that when you were Muslima, you did not get the right teachings of Islam that is why you are saying that you are free from this “Prison” of Islam, which i believe gives the utmost liberty, freedom and respect not only to men but also women. You can still post any allegations on Islam’s attitude towards Women and i, as an infant student of Islam, am sure that even having as less knowledge of Islam as any one, i can tell you how Islam uplift women, how Islam says that women and men are equal, in every sense. he differences people (non-muslims, west) see, are because of their less understanding and knowledge about islam. and secondly, because of our own mistakes that we could not present islam in a right way.
You are always welcome sister to ask any question. If you think Islam made you a prisoner, we can have discussion on it. And believe me, if i would be able to convey my message properly, and you will listen that with an open heart im sure that you will definitely surrender to the truth . InshAllah.
And its good to know that you are working and contributing towards society, Islam also doesnt stop you to do that. Im sure you had a bad interpretation or representation of Islam when you were muslima.
About Dr. Zakir Naik, If you think so, i respect your opinion, but i would rely more on millions of people who accept him as a true scholar. and try listening to him not for entertainment but with a serious attitude towards attaining the truth. If you are serious in this quest then im sure you will get the truth and if you are just having entertainment by putting alegations on Islam and Scholars, then im sorry sister, nobody can do nothing, and you will stick to your thinking.
May Allah show us the right path.Amen
about 3 years ago
Hi guys and gals! First of all I am no a ‘He’ but a ‘She’. Why did you jump to the conclusion that I am male. Did your masochist mind just could not accept that a female could post some critics? And to answer your question YES, I WAS A MUSLIMA! But thanks now I am free from this prison called Islam. And one more point, if sometimes I feel like I want some entertainment, I just watch The Clown Zakir Naik on youtube and I am guaranteed to have a really good belly laugh! Another point, The ‘critics’ are not from me but from Mohammad Zaidan which I found on Islam-watch which I took the liberty to copy and paste.
Sorry got to go to work (now that i am free, I can work!!!). Be back soon guys and gals!
about 3 years ago
Dear Aamir,
May Allah give you countless reward for this as you have presented alot of material and have successfully proved that allegations of Blue Moon are indeed wrong.
I hope he gets the right message from this and will not contradict just for the sake of contradiction and he will come to the right path of guidance. Amen
regards.
about 3 years ago
Dear Brother Ijaz !
I understand your point here. and i do agree with you as well. but i just wana convey to Dear Blue moon and there is no contradiction in Quran. and that can be visible to anyone whether, christian, Jew any other, or athiest.
Still im sorry, i shouldnt have wrote all this because u asked a different quesion, i apologize for that, but i already uploaded 2 comments when i saw urs, so had to comment completely, Sorry again
Regards
about 3 years ago
“17:1 Mohammad visited Al-Masjid Al-Aqsa. The problem is that there was no Masjid Al-Aqsa nor any other masjid during the life of Mohammad since Islam entered Palestine after Omar Bin El Khattab conquered Palestine after the death of the prophet. Al-Masjid Al-Aqsa was built almost sixty years after the death of Mohammad by Marwan bin Abdelmalik.”
you are right that Al-Masjid Al Aqsa was not built at that time. the word Aqsa literlly means “the farthest ” here in Quran it has been used in the meaning of “the Farthest Mosque”. later, this same name was used for the mosque itself.
as Wikipedia explains (although its not one of the authentic source):
“The mosque itself forms part of the al-Haram ash-Sharif or “Sacred Noble Sanctuary” (along with the Dome of the Rock), a site also known as the Temple Mount in English and Har HaBayit in Hebrew, and considered the holiest site in Judaism since it is the site of the Temple in Jerusalem (Beit HaMikdash) destroyed by the Romans. Widely considered as the third holiest site in Islam, Muslims believe that prophet Muhammad was transported from the Sacred Mosque in Makkah to al-Aqsa during the Night Journey”
“Islamic tradition holds that Muhammad led prayers towards this site until the seventeenth month after the emigration, when God ordered him to turn towards the Ka’aba.”
it shows the presence of the place even at the start and before Islam, i will explain about it later as well. but there is no contradiction here, as i have explained the way the words were used in this ayah.
For 71:15-16, 31:10, 5: 73, 19:25, 88: 20, 23:12-14, 18:83-86 and 86:7
i will refer you to listen lectures and debates by Dr. zakir Naik, i can give you the link of his Videos as well. I m refering you to him, as he has answered all these questions in his debates and lectures regarding, Islam and Science, Islam and christianity and Islam and other religions. He has won several debates from christian missionaries as well. i am sure that you will find answers to every quesion, inshAllah.
and believe me NO scientific statement of Quran has been roved wrong up to this day. this is not merely a belief, but also a fact, which even non-muslims admit.
there are some of your allegations left unanswered in this comment of mine which are:
23:14, 4: 78, 79 and 2:97
i will definitely answer these allegations as well. meanwhile you look into the lectures and debated on Dr. Zakir Naik.
i will repeat that im not a scholar, even then when i read your alegations and cross checked the with Quran, i found them baseless without any help from any scholar, i would advise you to read and understand it, and if possible clear your misconceptions with a scholar, not in a forum like this.
I Pray that May Allah show all of us the right path and make us not only understand that but also to practice and accept that wholeheartedly.Amen
Regards
about 3 years ago
“2:23. if you have doubts about our revelations to our servant ( Mohammad) call on your martyrs (Shohadaikum). It should be call on your partners ( Shorakaikum) as no one would call on the dead people to witness anything.”
Well i did not get any logic behind your alegation, here Allah is challenging the kufars of that time that if you have doubt in our revelation then bring one Surah like this and call your helpers except Allah, if you are true. i dont understand how you put “as no one would call on the dead people to witness anything.” here. at that time Arabs had a great belief in their Poets as well as their gods. this is a challenge to call them for help and bring one sura like this.
“37:139-145 Jona ( Younis) was ejected from the belly of the whale, while in 68:48-49 Jona was not ejected. Which is it ejected or not ejected?”
the above elegation is again baseless, as in first part, God told that a fish inhaled him, he was ashamed, and if he couldnt have been amongst the Praisers (tasbeeh kerne walay) then he would have lived in there till the day of judgment. so We (God) put him on dry land (meaning the fish throwed him out) . in ayah 68:48-49… God is not talking about the first part of the story where fish inhaled him and then throwed him out, rather He is warning prophet and telling him the later part and saying if we wouldnt have given him our hand, he might have been cursed and stayed on tht flat (and dry) ground foreva. well again im not a scholar, i just read Quran and these ayah and came to understand tht, i dont think so you have read Quran, i think u have just read these allegations and havent cross check them. and i think its a dishonesty with knowledge.
anyways
about 3 years ago
Dear Aamir,
Thank you for responding on some allegations but I requested that we should wait first and let Blue Moon answer questions on my comment 51. This will make it clear whether we need to answer him directly from Quran or he will reject anything we’ll advice him from Quran. We may need to use a completely different approach and just convince him logically based on Quranic evidences. So I strongly believe that he needs to answer those questions first.
regards.
about 3 years ago
The same Law is applied on being virtuous. that is that when a man values the “Hidayah” which is being instilled in him/her (mentioned at the start), God creates more opportunities for him to get him/herself to the right path. Then when he starts struggling in the way of right path, God starts showing him ways to be on the right path, it has been mentioned in Quran. that Allah gives “Taufeek” to a person, who values the “hidayah” instilled in him. same things is described by Jesus (AS) that if God has given u a “cent” and you will honestly keep it, god will give u “dollar” (dollars and cents are used here to explain it), but if you will not value Cent and will be dishonest, then God will take away the cent as well.
So this Sealing, increasing sickness etc. is because of a person’s attitude towards truth. because of his/her own rigid and biased behavior towards truth.It would have been injust by the Raheem and Rehman God if He did not iniitially have given him chance, or did not have sent a messenger to them, or did not have shown them the right path and straight away put seal on their hearts or gave them a free hand to live in sins and go astray.
Rather when a person makes some thing his/her ego, and thinks that whether its right or wrong i will not accept it, then God applies His Law and punish that person not only in this world (according to the law i described earlier) but also in hereafter.
I hope the concept in your mind that God is being “cruel” in these ayahs of Quran is clear now.
You said:
“91:8 God inspires humans their good and evil. If God, in His unlimited capability, inspires good and evil for all beings, then we are either doomed or saved right from the beginning and we have no other alternative. Repentance means nothing when such a decision was already made.”
The Ayah says that ” God gave him the understanding of Good (Naiki) and Bad (badi)”
I have explained this in the law of Hidayah and Gumrahi. but to elaborate a little more. God sent human in this world with this understanding of Right and wrong. He knows by birth that Lie is a lie and dishonesty is dishonesty. its just like when we say that we have been shown two paths, now its our initiative whether to choose the right path or wrong path. And when we will choose either one of them, The above mentioned Law of God will come in action.
Remember brother, God has created this world/Life as a test, and if God would have shown us onlythe right path or the wrong one, then it can not be called a test. He has given us the free will and shown us the right path. now its our Test and if we will succeed in this test, and will keep our selves pure, then He will give us Jannah as reward. this is the answer of your next allegation as well, which is:
“6:149 If God wished He would have guided all of you. Status quo proves then that God did not wish to guide all! Obviously he did not want everyone to believe.”
about 3 years ago
the context of the ayah 2, 6-7 is as follows:
Opposite of the people who accepted the truth (presented by Prophet Muhammad) with open heart, there were people who not only rejected the truth but also decided that they will never accept it in any case, whether its a truth or falsehood they will never ever accept this, and when man decides to reject some thing completely and in any case,then it is not the time for logics, to make him understand, then that person will take decisions on his Ego, bias and self-interests, and based on those decisions he negates biggest truths as well.at the time of Muhammad PBUH, this was the character of the leadership of Quraish. So God said to prophet that its usless to show them the right path, they will never understand.
Quran explains what was the factor which has become between them and truth.
The ayah says (tafseer) that God has Sealed their hearts and ears, and has put curtains “Parda” on their eyes, so they have no way out now, a great “Azab” Punishment is waiting for them.
Here in this ayah, God has told us His law of “Hidayat” (right path), and “Gumrahi” (Going Astray) in general, and has described it at other places of Quran in detail…the law of ‘how He shows a person right path and how He let some one proceed on wrong path. The Law is as follows:
when God sends man on earth, He sends him/her with noble, clean and simple nature. and instil the understanding of Right and Wrong in him/her. or we can say that this understanding is in-built in humans, this understanding makes them different from Animals and makes them “Ashraf-ul-Makhlookat” (the best of creatures).Man is a moral and logical (the one who can think) being. on the basis of this understanding of right and wrong, when man starts growing, his conscience starts warning him/her. this warning from his/her conscience is the first messenger of God, first “Hidayat” by God, the first warning by God.
when man rejects this voice of his conscience, and doesnt listen to this, and surrender him/herself to satan, God give him/her relaxation (giving a little time) for a certain time period. and when he/she doesnt get benefit of this relaxation, then God warns him from his surroundings, after those warnings, when he/she also neglects those warnings. and Quran explains that the reasons of this neglecting is nothing but he/she surredndering , or giving hold of his behavior, to the rigidness of his/her Nafs, Or he surrenders to his biases, or he/she makes his emotions dominanting his/her actions. when this is the situation, this person develops a specific rigid and biased behavior towards truth. and when this behavior reached to a certain peak, then God, as a punishment, puts seal on his/her heart. this seal on heart is as a punishment.
As a law of God, When that person Did not care about the guidance of God, and did not value that guidance, after giving relaxation for a certain time, God decides to leave him without the straight path in this world.
This is the thing which has been described as “seal on heart, eyes” in Quran. This law or punishment has been described differently on different occasions in Quran.
it is said that when a person makes his/her Heart Rigid and after giving relaxation for a certain time, God also makes his/her heart rigid and “Bended”.
It is said that when man forget God, for some time God creates reasons for him to remember God, but if he doesnt remember God, after that time God also forgets him,
it is said that When a person commits a sin, his hearts gets one spot of corrode, when he/she keeps on doing sins, after a time, his whole heart gets corroded.
this is the law of hidayah and “going astray”…that means when man buys astray (going to wrong path), when he prefer astray, when he loves astray, and when he makes astray purpose of his life, then God punish him with this punishment of “sealing his/her heart and ears”. One Punishment will be on the day of judgment, and one is this one which he/she will bear in this life.
All the Ayahs, being put by you as an allegation, are describing this law
the mistake on your part , or i should say on the part of the write of these allegations is that he did not read these ayahs in their context, and in the context of the whole preachings of Quran.
about 3 years ago
Dear Blue Moon
it is quite evident that you are one of our non-muslim Brother/sister. but i expect you to be biasless in your approach, if you are truly in your quest to seek truth. And if you are just here to blame Muslims and Islam, and point the mistakes in Islam and Quran then with this intent, you can not reach truth.
As i am not a scholar myself, so to asnwer your allegations I Went through some videos of a scholar as well as Tafaseers. and i thank you that you put forward these allegations and hence God showed me an opportunity to read and learn more about Islam and Thanks to God that as a result, My Iman has increased, and now i believe more then earlier that Yes ! Quran is the true word of Allah. i will answer your allegations in parts, not all at once, as they need time to answer.
As u said:
“2:6-7 God blinded the unbelievers as he closed their hearts, their vision and their hearing. Why would the loving God, who wanted everyone to believe, do that?”
on the basis of the above mentioned allegation, i will try to answer the following allegations as well. because they are linked.
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“2:10 The kuffars are sick in their hearts and God increased their sickness. Is that logical that God would increase their sickness instead of healing them?”
“2: 264 God does not guide the Kuffars. Really? Isn’t like the physician who would not treat the sick? Who needs guidance the believer or the unbeliever?”
“4:88 Do you want to guide those that God had misled? Is that possible that the all loving God would mislead His own creatures?”
“6:149 If God wished He would have guided all of you. Status quo proves then that God did not wish to guide all! Obviously he did not want everyone to believe.”
“13: 33 If God misleads his creature no one can guide them. Again is it possible that the most merciful not only misleads his creatures but He does not want anyone else to guide them.”
“14:4 God misleads whoever He wants and guide whoever He wants. Aren’t we here witnessing God’s racism when He is being selective in guidance?”
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about 3 years ago
Asslam o Alaikum everyone,
Let me first ask Blue Moon, if he was satisfied and convinced with our answers to his questions he asked in comments 36 and 41. Sana, Aamir and I have given answers to them and it is expected from Blue Moon to give us feedback on that, if he still believes that he is not satisfied then he should provide us logical explaination why he disagrees with them. If he agrees and he’s satisfied then atleast acknowledge that.
Regarding a number false allegations, let me tell you all that these are nothing and disbelievers have come up with even stronger contradictions in the past and in each era they were disappointed and failed to defend their false allegations when responded by right muslim scholars. We will all try to answer them to the best of our knowledge (May Allah help us) as well but I’d request everyone who responds to Blue Moon, let’s first get answers to the following questions from him.
1. Did you get the answers to your questions in comments 36 and 41? If satisfied then say Yes, if not then explain logically, don’t just say No for the sake of saying No.
2. Are you a muslim or believe in some other religion? Because that will really make a big difference how we should respond to you.
3. Can you tell me one other religious book that does not have any contradictions?? If you find contradictions in other books also then it means that you don’t believe in religions at all. This gives an indication that you might belong to a category which Quran has already mentioned in Surah Al-Baqarah.
“Verily, those who disbelieve, it is the same to them whether you (O Muhammad Peace be upon him ) warn them or do not warn them, they will not believe”. 2:6
“Allah has set a seal on their hearts and on their hearings, (i.e. they are closed from accepting Allah’s Guidance), and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be a great torment.” 2:7
I know you found false contradiction in the last verse 2:7 also and I will answer to that in detail InshaAllah but let’s first get answers to these questions. I just want to make sure that you don’t belong to this category which spends its time and research in finding the contradictions in religious books instead of the getting the right message. If this is the case then we are all wasting our time here.
Hope to get your answers soon.
regards.
about 3 years ago
dear Blue Moon !
I must say that you have done alot of research on Quran, but unfortunately, just against it. Its just like when you hate some one, you are unable to look into his/her good attributes, and some times his/her Good deeds and attributes look wrong to you. So you are in similar relationship with Quran where i believe that you are just listening to the eople who havent understand Quran and blame Quran for that. Try to be a bit open hearted and open minded, and you will start getting out of this shell..
As far your, or i should say Mr. Mohammad Zaidan’s Allegations on Quran, i have went through each and every reference given by you to show the inconsistencies and contradictions in Quran. I am not a scholar, im not an expert in Quran, im an infant student, yet when i went through these allegations, i came to know that none of them i repeat NONE of them carried weight. I will asnwer you each and every alegation put forward by you. Very Soon inshAllah
kindlt let me know whether you understand Urdu?
I would ask each and every participant in this blog to read Dear Blue Moon’s Alegations and then refer them to Quran, the truth will be open to you as well…I did the same and Alhumdolilah thanks to Blue Moon, My Iman has increased.
Regards
about 3 years ago
Inconsistencies and Contradictions in the Quran
by Mohammad Zaidan
25/11/2005
Moslems claim that the Quran is a literal inspiration from God; word by word and letter by letter which means you cannot find any one mistake or contradiction since God does not commit any mistakes. But in 2:97 God says that it was Mohammad’s heart that was inspired which implies inspired images not words since words are inspired to the mind. Actually nothing could be inspired to the heart since it lacks the mechanism of memory. Below you should find few of the contradictions and consistencies that do not befit the almighty God.
2:23. if you have doubts about our revelations to our servant ( Mohammad) call on your martyrs (Shohadaikum). It should be call on your partners ( Shorakaikum) as no one would call on the dead people to witness anything.
86:7 human sperms originate from between the back and the ribs, which contradicts the science of embryology which stresses that sperms originate from the testicles.
4: 78, 79. Verse 78 says that all actions good or evil come from God while the verse 79 says that good comes from God while evil comes from humans, an obvious contradiction.
37:139-145 Jona ( Younis) was ejected from the belly of the whale, while in 68:48-49 Jona was not ejected. Which is it ejected or not ejected?
2:6-7 God blinded the unbelievers as he closed their hearts, their vision and their hearing. Why would the loving God, who wanted everyone to believe, do that?
2:10 The kuffars are sick in their hearts and God increased their sickness. Is that logical that God would increase their sickness instead of healing them?
2: 264 God does not guide the Kuffars. Really? Isn’t like the physician who would not treat the sick? Who needs guidance the believer or the unbeliever?
4:88 Do you want to guide those that God had misled? Is that possible that the all loving God would mislead His own creatures?
6:149 If God wished He would have guided all of you. Status quo proves then that God did not wish to guide all! Obviously he did not want everyone to believe.
13: 33 If God misleads his creature no one can guide them. Again is it possible that the most merciful not only misleads his creatures but He does not want anyone else to guide them.
14:4 God misleads whoever He wants and guide whoever He wants. Aren’t we here witnessing God’s racism when He is being selective in guidance?
91:8 God inspires humans their good and evil. If God, in His unlimited capability, inspires good and evil for all beings, then we are either doomed or saved right from the beginning and we have no other alternative. Repentance means nothing when such a decision was already made.
18:83-86 Zu-El Qarnin found out that the sun sets in a hole of murky water. Really? The sun which is so much larger than the earth would set in a murky hole on the same earth. Those who claim that such a statement is attributed only to Zu-Al Qarnin are easily debunked by the holy hadeeth where Mohammad confirms the setting of the sun in a hole of murky water to Abu-Darr.
23:12-14 in Quranic embryology a stage is reached when it becomes bones then the bones are dressed with flesh ! Ignoring of course that the two flesh and bones are developed simultaneously in humans.
17:1 Mohammad visited Al-Masjid Al-Aqsa. The problem is that there was no Masjid Al-Aqsa nor any other masjid during the life of Mohammad since Islam entered Palestine after Omar Bin El Khattab conquered Palestine after the death of the prophet. Al-Masjid Al-Aqsa was built almost sixty years after the death of Mohammad by Marwan bin Abdelmalik.
23:14 blessed Allah the best of all creators. How many creators do we have?
88: 20 The earth has been flattened. An obvious contradiction to simple science.
19:25 Shake the palm tree talking to Mary. First of all Bethlehem is a mountainous city where no palm trees grow anyway. Secondly dates from a palm tree mature in the summer time not the cold winter of December. Thirdly Christ was born in a manger. Fourthly it takes a superman to be able to shake the trunk of a palm tree.
5: 73 He blasphemes who says that God is one of three gods. Not defending Christianity, but no Christian claims that there are three gods. Obviously Mohammad was confused about the trinity which describes God as one with three different characters. Of course this claim is debatable.
31:10 God created the heavens and supported them with invisible pillars. Obviously Mohammad thought that the sky is nothing but some kind of a big tent which needs pillars to support it, but invisible (since we can’t see them). One should wonder about the millions of airplanes that fly everywhere without bumping into them!
71:15-16 God created the seven stories heavens and made the moon as a source of light in these heavens. The earth could hardly be seen by any distant star within the first level of heaven, let alone its moon. How then the same moon would light up the environment in other levels when it could hardly be seen or light our first level of heavens?
The poor authors of tafseer could not come up with any credible explanations to any of the above, as they naively try in vain to unveil the above contradictions.
about 3 years ago
Thanks Sister Sana !
i would like to add some thing in your comment. A small reply and a suggestion to Blue Moon !
as u mentioned “I, being a honest seeker, found nothing spiritual in the Quran, i rather found it to be to be dull, repetitive, no cohersion and very very boring to read! ”
Well i would say that your experience is not supported by the evidences of history, Many scholars have spent their whole lives with Quran and at the end of their lives, they believe that they could not do justice with it. Secondly, even non-muslims accept the uniqueness and wholeness of Quran. Allah SWT give Arabs an open challenge in Quran to produce one such ayah. and asks them to bring with them their best poets, Jins, and any one who they wish to bring, but time is witness that nobody was able to produce an ayah like Quran. Even the greatest poets of Arabs, some of them were even non-muslims, accepted in the time of Muhammad (PBUH) and later that the language and the way it has been presented can not be a human work. Now its a matter of a person’s intelligence and intellect..not a weakness of Quran.
as u said
“How come a book which initially meant to be undestood by the whole humanity needs other writings like the hadiths to interprete it!”
Quran is the simplest book for a normal person, like he/she can get the basic preeching of Quran, even if he/she opens its pages randomly. The message is that God is One, He is the creator and sustainer, He has made this life as a test, He is the master of the day of judgment, where the criteria of success for humans will be how much a person has purify him/herself. but for a scholar, it can be the world’s most difficult book, and its miracles are never ending. When u say that sentences are repetitive and dull, i think u r again saying this without proper understanding of the book. Its not a normal book, its a revelation from God, where God is talking to his Man, prophet Muhammad (PBUH),Scholars agree that the best word we can say for Quranic style of language is that its in a style of “Khitab” (speech), in which people may ask a question from Prophet and Allah will adress that in revelation by breaking the already started revelation. prophet himself might have a question in his mind and God will answer that etc. these are just some of the examples on the nature of the language of Quran. afterall i am not a scholar, so i will suggest you to contact a Real Scholar and try to understand the Quran, its purpose and its message. I am 200% sure that you wil not only be amazed of its miraculous nature, but you will also surrender your life to the will of God.
you said:
“How come an all COMPASSIONATE and MERCIFULL god create HELL! ”
i would simply ask you, that why we have created jails, why we punish the murderers, theifs and rapists? why we fail a student in his/her exam and some time we even kick him/her off the school college? are we cruel by nature? is every human on this planet cruel?
God has sent us in this world, with the understanding of right and wrong. He has sent Manuals (Quran, Torah, bible and ither Heavenly scriptures) for our guidance, He has sent His messengers for human’s guidance, He has shown signs in this universe for human’s guidance, He has done each and every thing for human guidance, yet people dont obey Him, yet people get them Astray. i will ask you, do we do all these things before hanging a murderer or sending some one to jail or giving him/her life imprisonment. Still you ask why God created hell?
you said:
“Isn’t it mentionned in the Quran somewhere (can’t remember the sura) that Alla has already decided who is going to hell and who is going to inherit heaven? And also why do i have to recite some words (in arabic) like a parrot which to me have no meaning.”
I think it could have been totally injust if God would have already DECIDED on who is gona be in hell and whoz gona be in heaven. there is a difference in whether He has decided or whether He knows. and thats the thin line which you have missed. God has given us a free will in this world, and He will test us in this world on our choices, whether we choose the right path or wrong one. whether we purify ourselves or we get ourselves in deep imoralitites and sins….But because He is All knowing, for him there is nothing hidden, so He knows what a person will do in future. and that is different then deciding our “futures” in hereafter.
about the second part of ur comment, i would appreciate you, alhumdolilah, if you have this thirst in you for the right path, and you have an open mind and heart, then sure, do not read it like a parrot, read it with understanding, proper understanding. read under a scholar’s guidance, you can take direct guidance as well as you can take guidance in the form of Tafseer (interpretations/explanations) done by scholars.
I have tried my best to clear your misconceptions and i hope it will clarify misunderstanding you have.
May God show us the right path. amen
Regards
about 3 years ago
Brilliant points. I think after the comments of Brother Ijaz and Brother Aamir, there is no corner left incomplete. their comments are covering every point given by you Blue Moon. Even that a person having not enough knowledge can get the bottom line from their detailed replies. According to me these are perfect replies.
You should be satisfied and try not to Read Holy Qur’an but Recite it. First and foremost thing is your Belief. If you don’t have Belief, then what use of reciting it. It is Miraculous and Heavenly book and surely it influences us. It is not my assumption. It is said by the world. You see the modern research is proving its medical benefits. Even in French Mental Hospitals, Ablution i.e. Wuzu is being used for the treatment of neurotic patients. If Wuzu is so beneficial then just imagine that how many benefits you get from reciting this Holy Book. So try not to read it but understand it. Try to get the underlying meaning of this book. It is the guideline not for specifically muslims. But for all the Human beings. You will find it a complete guideline.
This misconception that Jews are considered Apes, pigs etc. its not like that. I never heard something like this. Have you ever met a chance to Read about the Last Address of Our Beloved Holy Prophet Hazrat muhammad sallallaho alaihi wa’alihi wasallam. In that address He (Sallallaho Alaihi Wa’alihi Wasallam) says, “no arab is preferred at non-arab and not any non-arab is preferred at arab. In the eyes of Allah the only scale of measuring the best people is Virtue. you know here is not only the message for Muslims only. He (Sallallaho Alaihi Wa’alihi Wasallam) is never considered “the prophet of muslims only”. He (Sallallaho Alaihi Wa’alihi Wasallam) is called “Rehmatullil Alimeen” i.e. The Blessing for all the worlds. Then how could he consider any human being………any suprem being similar to apes or pigs etc. Anyways neither in Qur’an is mentioned anywhere about it. Try to change your negative thoughts dear brother/sister Blue Moon. For a research purpose your approach should be positive.
May Allah keep us on Siraat-e-Mustaqeem and save us from astraying here and there.
about 3 years ago
Dear Blue moon !
although Brother Ijaz and sister Sana have answered you pretty well. but i would like to know the reference of the comment you placed here, ” Jews are considered to be pigs and apes. How com a Jewish child enter heaven? He/she would be considered as a pig or an ape!!”
i can never imagine, a holy revelation saying some thing like this, atleast Islam and Quran doesnt say anyhting like this.
just to elaborate a little more on your question 2 and 3, that remember one thing that God is All-knowing, he knows what is inside our hearts, he knows our intentions and the reasons of our behavior, the environment in which we do any sin etc. So He will consider every thing before punishing a person. thats why i emphasized that Allah will do ABSOLUTE JUSTICE….and will be REHMAN and RAHEEM in his rights toward people. why a person did not accept Islam, whether it was his personal bias, whether the message was not conveyed to him properly, or whether the message was not conveyed at all…every thing will be considered before punishing him/her.
hope we have cleared your misconceptions and misunderstandings.
Regards
about 3 years ago
Dear Blue Moon,
About the word “Assumption” I used it means thoughts, questions or hypothesis that come to our mind. It did not mean that I was “assuming” that no. 1 was wrong and no. 2 was right. What is right and what is wrong I have already explained in arguments before that.
Suppose for a while, we go by this assumption that Allah had already decided who would go to hell or heaven then I’d ask for what purpose He sent us to this world? He could have sent us directly to hell or heaven without creating this world and all systems associated with it. Allah has given us a chance to use our brain and decide if we want to follow His path or satan’s path, so that on the day of judgement we don’t blame Allah that He didn’t give us any chance or decided Himself our destiny. so I hope you also agree that no. 2 is right.
Now about your other questions, let me first appreciate Sana and Aamir for their responses which are very valid. I will also try to answer them for you.
1. A newborn from a Jewish family dies just after being born. Will he/she goes to heaven? You also added, “He/she would be considered as a pig or an ape!!”
Actually, this is very interesting statement you have given. Would you please share with us the source of it? Quran doesn’t say anything like this, Quran tells us that all the people are from the progeny of Adam and Eve, and they were both Human beings.
Now let’s come to the original question. Yes, a newborn from Jewish family will go to heaven. Infact, not only Jewish even Hindu, Chinese, Christian or any newborn, if dies after being born will go to heaven. Here we need to understand why Allah has set this criterion? The answer is Islam is the religion Allah has given to all the Prophets and every child that is born to mankind is muslim by birth but later on his parents or family or friends or society make him follow a different religion.
So to answer your question, yes the newborn will go to heaven because he/she will be treated same as a muslim newborn is treated.
2. A child is born somewhere in the Amazone forest and never comes accross the teachings of The Prophet (PBUH). At the age of eight he is killed by a rival tribe. Will he stlll go to heaven cause the key to heaven is the belief in Allah and his holly prophet (PBUH)?
I think Aamir has provided good explaination. I’d only add that there can be three categories.
- If the message of Islam is reached to that person and he believes that it is truth but denies it just because of his arrogance or ego then for these kind people hell fire is the destination.
- If the message has never reached but he believes that there exists a God (not gods like sun or snake), a supreme power who has created and is controlling the whole universe and he did not do bad deeds based on his instincts then it is hoped that Allah will forgive him. Allah is the most Merciful and Forgiving.
- There is actually another category, a laid back and carefree person, who never got the message and never bothered to think whether God exists or not (which also means he never did shirk) but did good deeds based on inborn instincts then it is hoped that Allah will forgive him since He is the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful.
I personally don’t think the last two type of people exist now a days in this modern world.
3. The life span of a human being is average 70 years. We do some mistakes (sins?) and errs somehow during this short lifespan. Does this mean that we will have to suffer the atrocities of hell for ETERNITY.
First of all if you believe in Allah and His Oneness, it is hoped that He will forgive small sins. Now we need to understand a little concept that Allah will not punish based on duration of the sin. It is the characteristic, quality and nature of sin that will decide what punishment and how long it will be given. Like Allah looks at the quality of good deeds not quantity and give countless sawab for it even though it’s a small thing. The quantity is secondary thing, the same way sins will be treated.
Now let’s take an example, a person does a robbery at shops and banks and keep doing it for 5 yrs at different places, the court will punish him may be for 6 months or a year for 5 yrs. On the other hand, a person kills someone with one shot which took him 10 seconds, this person gets life imprisonment or death sentence. The same method (not punishments) will be used and based on what type of sin is done in 70 yrs of life. A person who commits shirk (make partners with Allah) will get eternal punishment in hell. All other sins will be judged by Allah based on each individual’s case and will be either forgiven since Allah is the most Merciful and Forgiving or the person will have to spend sometime in hell which will again be decided by Allah for how long and how severe, nobody else can answer on this.
I have done a humble attempt to answer your questions. Hope it will clarify your concerns.
regards.
about 3 years ago
Blue Moon,
I would like to support Brother Aamir’s point and surely that child who will born in Jewish family would go to heaven because he will be innocent. A new born baby is always innocent then how he can go to Hell? Allah is Al-Rehman, Al-Raheem then how could you assume that he will be hellish. Listen one thing clearly. Jews are not considered pigs and apes. All the Jews who truly followed Moses (A.S) would surely be awarded Heaven but the Jews who did and do Shirk, will never get Heaven. So the main point is not to be Jew or to be Muslim to get into Heaven. Nor Heaven is assumed to be a place for Muslims only. Ofcourse the true scholars of Christians who followed the right path and were true followers of Jesus (A.S) and never followed Shirk, will be there as well. A new born baby is always innocent so your assumption that he will be hellish is quite wrong.
about 3 years ago
To Aamir,
No! you have not answered my questions. Jews are considered to be pigs and apes. How com a Jewish child enter heaven? He/she would be considered as a pig or an ape!!
about 3 years ago
Dear Brother Blue Moon !
I was about to sleep when i read your above comment and couldnot go to sleep. i will reply to your questions to brother Ijaz in brief.
1. Yes he will go to heavens
2. there are 3 basic criterias for a perosn who is “born somewhere in the Amazone forest and never comes accross the teachings of The Prophet (PBUH). ”
A. the he beleive in Allah, and does not commit Shirk
B. he believe in hereafter
C. he do good deeds
the reason behind having these 3 criterias is that all of these 3 are inbuilt in humans. they by birth know what is right and what is wrong. they by birth have the idea/concept of God (even this guy born in amazone will try to search for who created forest and will try to search for the answer.and believein in hereafter is quite logical that one can not deny it or i should say only a fool may deny it.
3. Well even in hereafter, not all of the people or all of the sins will be havin eternal hell. it will depend on his/her sin. i would ask you, what you do in these worldly law? why do you give death penalty? why do you put some one in life prison???? ask yourself and you will get the answer. and trust me brother, in hereafter, one will have ABSOLUTE, i would repeat, ABSOLUTE justice….
Hope i have answered your questions
Regards
May Allah show us the right path
Amen
about 3 years ago
Dear Ijaz,
I respect your comments above but I still need some clarifications.
You have used the word ASSUMPTIONS. which means you are also assuming. Now how about this:
1. A newborn from a Jewish family dies just after being born. Will he/she goes to heaven?
2. A child is born somewhere in the Amazone forest and never comes accross the teachings of The Prophet (PBUH). At the age of eight he is killed by a rival tribe. Will he stlll go to heaven cause the key to heaven is the belief in Allah and his holly prophet (PBUH).
3. The life span of a human being is average 70 years. We do some mistakes (sins?) and errs somehow during this short lifespan. Does this mean that we will have to suffer the atrocities of hell for ETERNITY… I mean ETERNITY.
Your comments please.
about 3 years ago
Dear All !
Again ! i would like to appreciate sister sana in her efforts towards wisdom and islam. Hats off to you sister Sana. May Allah bless you with lots of happiness and Peace in your life. amen and may Allah show all of us the right path. amen
Well right now i will just comment a little on the subject, although some of our brothers and sisters need real clarifications here.
in my view, the purpose of Quran is to read it with understanding thats why Allah says in Quran, infact in the first Para, the first Sura says that its “Hadaya” for Mutakeen. That shows that its a book, the purpose of which is Hadayat, or showing right path, to every one. So i firmly believe that one should read this with understanding. and today, especially in sub-continent, nobody, i repeat nobody, can have an excuse that he does not understand arabic thats why he cant read it with understanding. because our Ulamas and scholars have done a great amount of work on the translation and explanation of Quran. i agree with Brother bilal about one of his comments that when we need a medicine we go to a doctor, so when we read a tafseer or a translation, actually we are taking guidance under the shadow of that “doctor”. So i dont think so that any body can have an excuse here, not atleast from our generation because we all know howto read urdu atleast. and on the basis of this i believe that for a person, who has read the quran once without translation, should read it with understanding. else i dont think so he/she is fulfiling the purpose for which quran was revealed. and unless any book is not read with its purpose in mind, it doesnt benefit you. i will take the example given by Brother Bilal that “why Prophet muhammad was sent….” (although he has choosen the example for proving his other point) but definitely if quran was suppose to be read in arabic, then arabs were good enough in arabic to read it, but prophet PBUH was choosen by God, so that he make us understand Quran and not only read it.
i agree with the medical and other benefits of Quran, alhumdolilah thats one of the uniqueness of Quran., but the true uniqueness of quran is its Hadayat for all the humans. and its a miracle, because its the true word of God in its original condition, we can proudly say that these are exactly the words on which Quran was revealed, and it gives us Hidayah on most important issue of humans, which is death and what will happen after death and to get us ready for that life.
And in the context of the condition of our umma, We should propogate reading of quran with understanding. because being away from Quran, is one of the reason of being seperate and having sects in our umma. So for me for a person who has read it once with arabic, should read it with understanding, otherwise he will be held questionnable on the day of judgment.
on brother blue moon, needs an elaborated answer. which i will post later inshAllah
Thumbs up sister Sana…
about 3 years ago
Well Done Brother Ijaz.Thanks a lot for adding your comments at this post. I would like to appreciate your views and arguements so warmly. I would like Brother Aamir and Muslim should contribute in this forum as well. Thanks a lot to you for getting some time for our this post and for giving some authentic comments
about 3 years ago
On the other comments from Blue Moon: “Isn’t it mentionned in the Quran somewhere (can’t remember the sura) that Alla has already decided who is going to hell and who is going to inherit heaven?”
Here is the answer, please read it carefully since there is very thin line of division between the right and wrong.
First of all Allah has not decided who is going to hell or heaven, please bear in mind that Allah KNOWS who is going to hell or heaven. Yes, it has been written and it shall happen exactly as it is written.
The first question comes to mind is how does Allah kNOW who is going to do good or bad deeds? The answer is very simple, how do we know it’s going to rain tomorrow when there are no clouds in the sky. We don’t create clouds, infact we don’t do anything but based on our knowledge that there are ingredients present which can make clouds and cause rain, we write in the news that it will rain tomorrow. So think about Allah who has created the whole universe, He has knowledge about everything who is going to do what, when, how and so on.
The second question is if Allah KNOWS that the person is not going to pray or obey His orders then what’s his fault? The answer is again very simple, He has given us brain to think and the guidance (Quran) which is full of evidences and warnings. Is this person using his brain? Is he getting the warning from Quran? If yes, then he’ll do good deeds and if not, then he’ll do bad deeds.
Now some people again ask a question if it’s written that a person is going to hell then what is his fault?
To resolve this confusion. There are two assumptions.
1. Someone goes to hell because it is written that he’ll do bad deeds.
2. Someone goes to hell because of his bad deeds which Allah KNOWS in advance and He wrote it.
The first assumption or thought is wrong.
May Allah guide us all to the right path.
about 3 years ago
Asslam o Alaikum,
This is very interesting topic. I am not going to comment on anyone although it looks like some of our brothers and sisters really need to understand what are the benefits of recitation of Quran and understanding of Quran as a whole.
The bottom line I’d say is that if someone understands Quran and implement the way of life it has recommended for us then person’s mental, physical and spirtual all healths will be aligned in good shape.
No need to argue on recitation is better or understanding is better.
regards.
about 3 years ago
Dear Sana,
I respect your wisdom and comments. But do clarify me cause it seems i’m still gropping in darkness. Isn’t it mentionned in the Quran somewhere (can’t remember the sura) that Alla has already decided who is going to hell and who is going to inherit heaven? And also why do i have to recite some words (in arabic) like a parrot which to me have no meaning. What wisdom would i gain just by reciting someting totally alien to me? And i am not biased, i have and open mind and read the Quran with an open mind.
your comments please.
about 3 years ago
One more thing to clear is that
Qur’an is the Holy revelation and it is only for the people who have wisdom, who have consciousness towards truth and fact. You consider it boring that means you don’t recite it with devotion. Be unbiased and try to recite the words of Allah fully attentively so that you get the true essense of it. It tells you about the moral values that you could not get from it. It tells you that how you should behave with the other people related to you……you also say it boring to learn moral values…..how ridiculous.
Qur’an teaches you how to live a balanced life and you feel it boring.
Qur’an teaches you that what type of Law and Order should be implemented in the society and you consider it boring. Qur’an teaches you how to live a peaceful life without evils and this is boring. Qur’an teaches you the best way to follow that goes towards Heaven and that is boring for you. It is so ridiculous to have your these comments.
My dear fellow, please first of all clear your thoughts and again read it without biased n prejudiced thoughts. You will get proper guidance in Qur’an for a peaceful life.
Below is a link from my own website please try to ponder over the facts after reading it. These were the renowned scientists and nobody forced them to read or follow Qur’an or to embrace Islam. But they used their wisdom and they became enlightened.
http://www.mesmarty.com/2008/12/non-muslim-scientists-embraced-islam/
Undoubtedly Qur’an is for the whole humanity but it has signs for those who have wisdom. not for everyone. with great apology……..dont be biased and try to recite it….dont try to read it merely.
May Allah show you the right path.
about 3 years ago
Dear Blue moon,
You know why human being is Suprem Being? Human being has been blessed with Wisdom & Awareness about good and evil, about kindness and cruelty, about fair and unfair etc rather than other creatures like animals, trees, mountains etc. Man is the only creature of Almighty Allah whom Allah blessed sovereignty over the Earth. Allah gave a circle to the Suprem Being that contains every virtue. He made His Suprem creature bound to remain in that circle and to live a pious life and not to follow Satan by going out of that circle. Allah is the most kind and merciful to His Suprem being that if a person commits a lot of sins unconsciously or consciously and later he feels truly repentence for them, he will be forgiven. But Hell is for those who have awareness of everything i.e. good & evil, kindness & cruelty, fair & unfair etc but still they follow Satan and cross the boundary set by Almighty Allah. Allah never wants His creature to follow evil so He gave him the proper awareness about the right and wrong paths. Now if he does not follow the right path, that is the bad luck of this Suprem Being……we can’t blame our Almighty Allah for it that why he has created Hell. Because if we see the philosophy of Good and Evil, we can say that Heaven is the reward for those who follow right path and do not adopt the evil ways, Heaven is for the followers of Al-Rehman, Al-Raheem. While the followers of evil i.e. Satan will go to Hell.
Allah is Rehman & Raheem to His creatures. He created Hell for the people who do not take pity on His creation. Let say! a person who is too cruel for Allah’s creations. He does not feel sympathy for any human being, any living creature. Then what do you think that Allah should bless him with Heaven? Heaven is a Blessing but only for those who deserve it. Allah created Hell but not for the people who take pity and feel sympathy for His creations but for those who suppress the living beings & who are barbarous towards His creatures.
Hope you could understand it properly. If any perplexion somewhere, please do let me know.
about 3 years ago
How come an all COMPASSIONATE and MERCIFULL god create HELL!
about 3 years ago
I have taken the patience to read the Quran thoroughly. It is supposed to be a book for the whole humanity, yet it is in arabic. 99% of the world population is not familiar with arabic. I, being a honest seeker, found nothing spiritual in the Quran, i rather found it to be to be dull, repetitive, no cohersion and very very boring to read! How come a book which initially meant to be undestood by the whole humanity needs other writings like the hadiths to interprete it!
about 3 years ago
Hi Razina
Thanks to appreciate my efforts. Actually Psychology is a very common subject in West but Psychological influence of Qur’an or Islam or namaz etc is a very Rare subject of Research. Only Turkish or some non-muslim scholars who were curious to know the importance or Influences of Namaz/Qur’an did research work in this concern.
Anyways some references of my posts @meSmarty, I am providing here. But if I get some other Research work from some one, I would definitely add it at mesmarty so keep visiting our site and commenting upon our posts.
References of my posts at meSmarty.
1- http://www.mesmarty.com/2008/10/namaz-its-benefits-in-the-light-of-modern-research-i/
2- http://www.mesmarty.com/2008/10/five-prayers-in-a-day-and-psychological-influence-of-them/
3- http://www.mesmarty.com/2008/10/islam-and-psychology/
4- http://www.mesmarty.com/2008/10/islam-psychosomatic-medicine/
I would like if you add at mesmarty some topics of your interest or some questions that tickle your mind because I would try to do research according to them.
about 3 years ago
Interesting article.
about 3 years ago
Hi Razina,
Surely we are here to provide you the authentic essays and knowledge. As far as the knowledge about Psychological influence of Holy Qur’an is concerned, definitely I can update you with the latest research about it with references as well.
Thanks for the appreciation
about 3 years ago
hi Sana, i’m very interested in what you have written in your posts, at the moment i am experimenting on the psychological effects of Qura’n recitation. how it effects our stress levels, heart rate and blood pressure. you seem to have great knowledge about this suject, please could you provide me with the rlevant sources to help me. as there arent any books, or journal articles covering this topic. and i am aiming to show the psychological benefits of reading the Qura’n.
i’d really appreciate it if you could e-mail me any information, or sources.
thank you.
about 3 years ago
Most Welcome to all our muslim brothers and sisters to share their words for Allah(Subhan-o-Tala)…
Million of thanks is slighter than the ward you appreciated to me to choose a topic in the name of Allah (Subhan-o-Tala). I really appreciate you to be a part of the essential and sensational discussion with the blessing of Allah Almighty and so the credit goes to Mr. Bilal Ahmed as well. Allah (Subhan-o-Tala) will guide all of us to follow the right path and courage to speak truth nothing but truth in the name of Allah who is most compassionate and merciful for all universe.
Best regards
Wa-Assalam Alyqum
about 3 years ago
Welcome Maheen. Its really a good forum to learn. You will surely enjoy here. Waiting for your reply and discussions.
about 3 years ago
Hi I newly joined you all by the efforts of Bilal who is an inspiration for me.Muhammad Danish you selected a topic of my interest.See you soon with this discussion.
about 3 years ago
Assalam Alayqum !
Allah is ONE!
Worship the creator, not the creation.
Gain knowledge and pass it on.
I believe that the new topic should have an enormous analysis for the betterments of knowledge development. With all your permission, shall we start pertaining to the subject?
Best regards
Wa-Assalam Alyqum
about 3 years ago
I know but my comment was for the audience
about 3 years ago
yes bb that of great importance i.e. to understand Quranic Verses for every muslim. But here my emphasis was on the recitation only. I just wanted to differentiate the importance of Recitation and the Negative effects of Medication.But soon I will present another essay related to the Importance of Understanding of Qur’anic Verses.
about 3 years ago
Excellent effort Sana…
But here, I want to make clear one more point which is very important to highlight.
the purpose of this post is not at all solely emphasizing on the reciting of Quran but just to clear some concepts of those who don’t recite because they can’t understand.
while on the other hand, understanding the Quran and following it is the GREATEST deed. We should recite Quran, understand each and every word with references (for the first time do consult some knowledgeable person) and we should act according to these teachings mentioned as in Quran.
Thanks a lot for reading and appreciating the effort as well.
Thanks to the contributors as well.
about 3 years ago
Hi Guys,
My these points are in context with the above discussion with a reader who asked about the Value of Reciting Qur’an instead of taking medicines to get relax and to avoid hypertensions. The References are given with every point.
According to “Abnormal Psychology” by Devison & Neel
Brain has Motor Nerve Fibres and Sensory Nerve Cells. There should be balance between two of them. In the condition of Stress our Thalamus starts to meet problems (Thalamus is a part that controls senses and emotions or feelings).When Thalamus goes to be defective, it automatically affects sensory nerve cells and brain gets imbalance and consequently it leads towards Psychosis and if Thalamus movements get faster than the routine, the person may become involved in wild schemes believing that “they will succeed any time”. This type of condition is one type of “Mood disorder” which called “Mania”. According to Zimbardo and Gerag (Psychology & Life 1996) “Mood disorder is an emotional disorder”. There remains no harmony, no continuity in his activities and thoughts”.
According to the Modern Research (Psychotropic Therapeutics” by S.U.Shah and Z.Iqbal)
When you recite the Qur’anic Verses, the movement of Thalamus remains peaceful and moderate. The Qur’anic Verses keep balance between Motor Nerve Fibers and Sensory Nerve Cells of brain and its radical and magical rays are sent towards the whole physical system through Thalamus and you get rid of tension, depression and hypertension like destructive conditions. This is not the same with Medication.
Depression/Hypertension
Because of Hypertension, Thalamus gets emotional disturbance that leads toward “Mania” (a type of Mood disorder)
According to FieldMan 1993, Depression interferes with concentration, decision making and socialability”
When you are in the state of Depression, Thalamus movements are anti clock-wise and in the state of Hypertension, it moves faster than the usual routine. If you take medicine to remove Depression/Hypertension, you face Amnesia (forgetfulness/lose of memory), head-ache, lack of appetite and sleep disorder. But According to Modern Research when you Recite Qur’an(even in the state of depression), it affects Thalamus positively and it starts its clock-wise movements again and if you recite Qur’anic verses in the state of Hypertension, your Thalamus comes at moderate level and starts its peaceful movements again. Modern Research has proved through many examinations and experiencing the effects of medication upon brain that if you take medicine to get rid of depression, you face Fantasy and Amnesia (lose of memory). It is because Thalamus movements become slower and medicines also damage the Sensory Nerve Cells and Motor Nerve Fibers.
So Guys!
We are suffering mental disorders, disturbance and sleep disorder type conditions presently and its because we are not reciting Qur’an (The Greatest Miracle of Allah) daily. If we call Recitation “Time Consuming” then what about the long courses of Medications that we take to get rid of one then another disease. Some times we have lifetime medication to get rid of mental disorder and diseases related to brain. But this is not the case with Recitation, we can do it now for 20 minutes or tomorrow for 5 minutes and the next day for 1 hour or as much time as we wish. Medicine is imposed to us but Recitation we do willingly and it effects more than Medicine.2ndly medication has not only its negative effects upon our brain, it affects our physical ability to work and in many cases, it disturbs our hormones order as well. So try to avoid medicines and be a True Muslim(Recite Qur’an daily though only some verses)
If you have any stuff about it Please add in here as you will get Sawab for conveying knowledge to the others as well as appreciation.
Regards
about 3 years ago
Thank you Ms. Sana
Awaiting your points to maintain the continuation lying on the same theme.
Allah Hafiz
about 3 years ago
Well Mr. Danish
This discussion is still continued. I am going to present some more points but let me complete my work first. During next week you will have some more discussion points with the reference of the above comments. ofcourse our this discussion is very precious as we get a lot of knowledge through this type of Islamic boards.
about 3 years ago
SubhanAllah !
I personally like your positive reception with DUA…JazakAllah,
Awaiting your post if you all have for this topic only,
otherwise will discuss in another topic related to Islam and Quran.
Grateful, if you all could have spare time for this purpose so, this will reckon service to Islam.
Allah Hafiz
about 3 years ago
mashaAllah, subhanAllah and JazakAllah
May Allah accepts effort of all the contributors to clear our concept.
thanks a lot guys. we are really thankful for so much knowledge that we are able to get from just one post.
This is the best way to utilize the media to spread the true knowledge and if any one out there gets benefited from this, the purpose of the site and effort of all the contributors is full filled.
about 3 years ago
The above discussion has a solution of all in the following Sura ..
Muzammil *SURAH*
In the name of Allah Most Gracious Most Merciful
1. O thou folded in garments!
2. Stand (to pray) by night but not all night
3. Half of it or a little less
4. Or a little more; and recite the Qur’an in slow measured
rhythmic tones
5. Soon shall We send down to thee a weighty Message
6. Truly the rising by night is most potent for governing (the
soul) and most suitable for (framing) the Word (of Prayer and
Praise)
7. True there is for thee by day prolonged occupation with
ordinary duties
8. But keep in remembrance the name of the Lord and devote
thyself to Him wholeheartedly
9. (He is) Lord of the East and the West: there is no god but He:
take Him therefore for (thy) Disposer of Affairs
10. And have patience with what they say and leave them with
noble (dignity)
11. And leave Me (alone to deal with) those in possession of the
good things of life who (yet) deny the Truth; and bear with them
for a little while
12. With Us are Fetters (to bind them) and a Fire (to burn them)
13. And Food that chokes and a Penalty Grievous
14. One Day the earth and the mountains will be in violent
commotion and the mountains will be as a heap of sand poured out
and flowing down
15. We have sent to you (O men!) an apostle to be a witness
concerning you even as We sent an apostle to Pharaoh
16. But Pharaoh disobeyed the apostle; so We seized him with a
heavy Punishment
17. Then how shall ye if ye deny (Allah) guard yourselves against
a Day that will make children hoary-headed?
18. Whereon the sky will be cleft asunder? His Promise needs must
be accomplished
19. Verily this is an Admonition: Therefore whoso will let him
take a (straight) path to his Lord!
20. The Lord doth know that thou standest forth (to prayer) nigh
two-thirds of the night or half the night or a third of the night
and so doth a party of those with thee. But Allah doth appoint
Night and Day in due measure. He knoweth that ye are unable to
keep count thereof. So He hath turned to you (in mercy): read ye
therefore of the Qur’an as much as may be easy for you. He
knoweth that there may be (some) among you in ill-health; others
travelling through the land seeking of Allah’s bounty; yet others
fighting in Allah’s Cause.
Read ye therefore as much of the Qur’an as may be easy (for
you); and establish regular Prayer and give regular Charity;
and loan to Allah a Beautiful Loan.
And whatever good ye send forth for your souls Ye shall find it in Allah’s presence yea better and greater in Reward. And seek ye the Grace of
Allah: for Allah is Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful
Whatever Allah Almighty has said is all truth….
So, what so ever we are taking for temporarily relaxtation either by Medicine or by any other way to get the rid of out of it , but both the way has a side affect more or less is depend upon the potency and the quantity.
Nevertheless, as far as the Quranic recitation habit is almost giving benifit in Dunia Wal AKhira (in the world and after the death in 2nd world).
الرجاء قراءة القرآن كل يوم
Best regards
about 3 years ago
Hi Fariha.
Thanks for your appreciation and your comments as well. As far as your view is concerned that
“Dopaman is produced due to anger etc.then we can also take its medicines as medicines are easily available in markets. Depression and anger can be removed through a lot of medicines too because taking medicine is not time consuming for the people.so a large number of people get relaxation through medicines instead of Quran.Is there anything special in Reading method that you are highlighting it?”
Well Fariha, First thing I want to clear you and you can verify it from any Psychiatrist or Neorologist that when we get different negative aspects of behaviour like Depression, Anger, Anguish or Furious etc. the quantity of Dopaman is produced at different levels in all these conditions. Let say If we are just angry, dopaman’s production will be at 1%, if we are depressed, Dopaman’s production will be at 4% and like wise. Okay.
Now the thing I want to explain you is that, Medicine temporarily makes us relax, it can stop the brain from producing more Dopaman but the what the hell you will do with the produced Dopaman?Like you got angry and your brain produced 1% of Dopaman. You take medicine that will make you relax and stop your brain to produce dopaman anymore. But what about the 1% Dopaman that your brain has produced? That will certainly effect your brain by and by. Medicine can just stop this act but it cannot save us from the produced danger.2ndly, Medicine, that we use to remove anger, depression etc. can escape us from one disease but it might cause of another disease. In certain cases in USA, it has happened in many hospitals in last few decades. But you know if you recite Holy Quran daily, though only some verses, it will escape you from this type of mental ailment and the bad effects of medications as well. Medicine is not time consuming but it has a lot of bad effects but Holy Quran can save not only your worldly life but the life after death too.You get Sawab, mental health, Balance between Id and Super Ego and a lot of other benefits.
Hope you got my point. Being a Muslim you should make some research and add in our this article.We always look farward for the views and more research work. But the research should be positive always.
Sana
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about 3 years ago
Hi to all
It is a very good discussion. I want to appreciate the whole team who is presenting this type of useful articles for to us. But one thing is in my mind that i will share. Dopaman is produced due to anger etc.then we can also take its medicines as medicines are easily available in markets. Depression and anger can be removed through a lot of medicines too because taking medicine is not time consuming for the people.so a large number of people get relaxation through medicines instead of Quran.Is there anything special in Reading method that you are highlighting it?Anyways the work is worth appreciating. good discussion forum.
Fariha
about 3 years ago
Du’a (Prayer):
We ask Allah (Glorified and Exalted is He) to grant us first and foremost Ikhlaas (Sincerity), and make our actions in accordance to the Sunnah (Prophetic Way). And we ask Him to protect us from variant ideas, scattering opinions and that we be deluded in thinking we are doing what is right, when in fact we are not.
We ask Allah (Glorified and Exalted is He) to protect us from all Falsehood and we ask of His grace and favour to do all Good. We ask Allah to reward all those who have directly or indirectly assisted us in this effort.
about 3 years ago
*information :$
about 3 years ago
thanks a lot. I really appreciate your effort and time to give us these value able informations
about 3 years ago
Hi Guys,
I do agree with Mr. Bilal Ahmed. Its main reason is Psychological influence of Quran on our minds and the parts of brain. Lets discuss them one by one.
1- According to the Modern Psychology by T.M. Yousuf, Our personality has 3 parts, Id, Ego, Super-Ego. Id wants the satisfaction of the worldly desires, Super-Ego is related to the religious matters, Ego works to balance between these two parts. Quran Strengthens our Ego and helps to manage worldly and religious matters. Ego is reality based.
Doctor Allam Iqbal (the poet of East) was also a great supporter of this “Ego strengthening theory” and suggested the treatment of all the diseases by it. Undoubtedly that is only possible if we recite Quran (Its another matter whether we get its meaning or not)
2- Dopaman is a liquid which is produced by our brain due to Stress and Depression which lead towards Psychosis and Schizophrenia. When we read Quran (though we don’t understand the meaning of its verses) we remain in a peaceful condition and our brain do not produce Dopaman. In this way we can save ourselves from mental ailments.
3- Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi(Time period from 1862-1943) used “ Reading Therapy” for the treatment of Psychosis and Neurosis. He used to suggest his patients to recite different Aayah and Surah from Quran ( they all were Non-Arabic and could not understand the meaning of what they were reading). Miraculously they got rid of their diseases. Its basic reason is that Cerebrum is a part of brain that consists of its 80%. Cerebrum has Cylvius that has many layers. These layers are the only difference between normal and lunatic person. If the number of these layers decreased in Cylvius of any person’s Cerebrum, he would get lunatic. Reading Therapy increased the number of layers and they get rid of their diseases.
4- Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan (Late) is the renowned Qawwal of Pakistan even long after his death. He used to organized different Qawwali Shows in many western countries where no one could understand his Qawwalis. Inspite of the fact, a lot of western people jazzed on the Qawwalis and they came in the condition of Wajad. They could not understand the words but still Qawwali was effecting them and had a great influence upon them that many of them embraced Islam.
Bilal Ahmed did not mean that not to understand Quran and just Read it. He just was presenting the Non-Arab people which are in large number than Arabs. Mr. FreshFarhan and Mr. Parvez Musharaf are just doing silly arguments by saying that it’s a stupid story etc. We should read and understand Quran. But its stupidity to deny the facts that Quran can influence even if we cannot understand it. If it cannot influence without understanding it, then what is the difference between the worldly books and Quran. Mr. FreshFarhan and Mr. Parvez Musharaf this is a miraculous book. It’s the quality of Quran that it influences the people whose language was Arabic and and the people whose language was not Arabic as well. I appreciate Bilal Ahmed who is trying to encourage the people that if they don’t understand any word they still should continue Recitation of Holy Quran. Indeed it influences. It purifies us when we read it. Bilal Ahmad rightly says that
” There are a lot of Hadess on this, “10 virtues for reading one letter of Quran, that means “Alif Laam Meeem” = 30 virtues
These virtues are not conditioned with Understanding of Quran. These are just for the every Muslim who reads a word from Quran.
Understanding of Quran is also essential so that we do not follow anything told by others blindly. But For its importance I would like to talk someother day in details with the comparison of Christianity and Islam.
So Recitation and Understanding of Quran are two different things. Recitation benefits every muslim whether he understands it or not. But Understanding escapes that muslim from going to the wrong path.
Again you can’t deny the importance of Recitation. Change your views and dont criticize anyone only for the sake of criticism. Do it at right point.
Carry on Bilal Ahmed. Doing good job.
about 3 years ago
1. “Quran is meant to be understood rather than just read like a complete idiot” if this was the case then why Almighty Allah send a Tutor (Hazrat Muhammad Sallallahu Alaihe Salam) to convey what HE means in the Quran even though it was in Arabic and Arab people knows Arabic very well. ????
2. not every person like me can just read and understand the true meaning of Quran by just the translation. you can’t understand what was the purpose of this Ayah and in which situation this was sent
“it is people like you who will never understand the message no matter what you do.”
By the way, why can’t you do operations and all medical perscriptions by just reading the medical books. why you go to doctors then… ?
So, for better understanding, the scholars have written the tafseers. If “That’s because you don’t believe in God and you rely on others to tell you what is right and what is wrong.” this is the case then, we don’t need those at all. do we ? that means all those who read those tafseers and write don’t believe on God?
about 3 years ago
What kind of a twisted logic is this. LOL OMG!
First of all, maybe you have not mentally evolved enough to understand the fact that Quran is meant to be understood rather than just read like a complete idiot. ITS a message from GOD. You don’t need any freakin tafseer or a scholar to understand what is in Quran. All you need is two eyes and a brain to understand. If you don’t understand Arabic, then read a translation.
And wtf are you lecturing FreshFarhan for? His comment made a lot more sense. I can go on quoting verses from Quran that suggests that it is people like you who will never understand the message no matter what you do.
Bilal says: “I am not a scholar to defend or justify this with proper references therefore whenever I encounter a problem I preferred to go to some one who has a better knowledge of this. I will go and will confirm if this negation of understanding the Quran is there in any reference of Hadees and Quran, definitely will be posting here for reference of others as well” — That’s because you don’t believe in God and you rely on others to tell you what is right and what is wrong. Do you even know why Humans are different from all other species? Why are they called “Ashraf-ul-Makhlooqat”. Its because they have one ability that no other species has …. THE ABILITY TO GAIN KNOWLEDGE!!! —– WHY dont you read Quran for a change and read the translation. Even more, try to transliterate Quran. Find out what is the real meaning of the words in Quran. Take out different versions of translations from Quran and start comparing them. If you are that much of a Muslim, go on do that, rather than writing such stupid articles.
Now to comment on your stupid story. You think associating anything with Quran is praising God or Quran itself. How the HELL can reading without understanding Quran can purify you!
FOR GOD SAKE, use your stupid stupid brain! And before replying, kindly think 10 times, because it will only make you a little more stupid than you have already proven in this post!
about 3 years ago
if you would have read the post clearly, you wouldn’t be posting this comments
read the first paragraph after reading your comment
about 3 years ago
my dear fellow,
first of all, we are not saying that we shouldn’t understand it. or we are not promoting this either but this is just for those who can’t understand it and therefore don’t even recite this Holy Book.
So, I would just say that this is not a misdirection, but it just says “It’s not useless to recite Quran even if you don’t understand it”
Second, reading and understanding the Holy Quran has much much bigger rewards so, the better is to understand it.
By Farhan: “There are many stories like this and interpretations from the Quran itself that say: Oh you dont have to read and understand the Quran, you are a jannati even if you just RECITE it.”
I would suggest you to read the Quran with translation don’t even go for tafseer you will get an idea that this negation is no where in the Quran to understand it.
There are a lot of Hadess on this, “10 virtues for reading one letter of Quran, that means “Alif Laam Meeem” = 30 virtues
but this doesn’t mean that you don’t need to understand it.
I am not a scholar to defend or justify this with proper references therefore whenever I encounter a problem I preferred to go to some one who has a better knowledge of this. I will go and will confirm if this negation of understanding the Quran is there in any reference of Hadees and Quran, definitely will be posting here for reference of others as well
about 3 years ago
People read these stories and say.. I suppose its alright not to UNDERSTAND the Quran, I could just go about RECITING it. There are many stories like this and interpretations from the Quran itself that say: Oh you dont have to read and understand the Quran, you are a jannati even if you just RECITE it. As a matter of fact, many “scholars” in the current “Muslim” countries say that yeah all you have to do is recite it, thats what the Quran says – no need to understand.
This is clear misdirection. I dont like stories like this. There should be stories that actually promote the fact that you should go out and UNDERSTAND the Quran, and not just read it.
about 3 years ago
No doubt about it.
about 3 years ago
Undoubtedly Qura’an purifies our souls and transforms us thoroughly from dirty to new one.